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Teenage IRA conviction overturned - 30 years too late!
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WhiteWolf - "An Mac Tíre Bán" <rayh(removespamblocker>@iol.ie>
2006-09-08 13:58:41 UTC
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After 30 years, a man has had his conviction for membership in youth wing of the
IRA overturned... Ah! British Justice.... At this rate, in about 120
thousand years, the Brits will finally admit that Bloody Sunday was a murderous
atrocity and offer an unconditional apology to the victims and their families...

I'm wondering if Mr. Mulholland shouldn't sue the British Government for
compensation based on the fact that he has had to go through life with this
conviction on record and how it might have effected his employment
opportunities... I'm thinking he should go for 100 million Euros...

These kinds of miscarriage of justice cannot and should not go without some sort
of recompense for the victim.

What say you?

Ray



BBC NEWS
Teenage IRA conviction overturned
A teenager jailed nearly 30 years ago for membership of the junior IRA has had
his conviction overturned.

Paschal John Mulholland, 46, from Woodside Hill, Portadown, served a year in
borstal after he was convicted.

He was 16 when arrested on suspicion of involvement in a gun and petrol bomb
attack on an RUC patrol in 1976.

Mr Mulholland said he had been mistreated in police custody and only admitted to
the charge because he was frightened.

ln 2000 his case was taken up by the Criminal Cases Review Commission (CCRC),
the independent body set up to review suspected miscarriages of justice.

The CCRC referred the case to the Court of Appeal after it had carried out a
detailed investigation.

Lord Chief Justice Sir Brian Kerr, who heard the appeal with lord justices
Nicholson and Campbell, said the mistreatment evidence raised a considerable
doubt in their minds as to the safety of the conviction.

He said that had the trial judge, the late Lord Lowry, been aware of the
allegations against two detectives he would have been slow to conclude beyond
reasonable doubt that Mr Mulholland's allegations about mistreatment were
untrue.

Sir Brian said the evidence of the medical officers who examined Mr Mulholland
was "compelling and damning."

Mr Mulholland, in a statement released through his solicitors Harte Coyle
Collins, said: "I am delighted with this result. It's just a pity I had to serve
a year in custody."

His solicitor said her client would now be pursuing a claim for compensation.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/northern_ireland/5327370.stm

Published: 2006/09/08 12:03:54 GMT

© BBC MMVI
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Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
2006-09-08 20:01:27 UTC
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Post by WhiteWolf - "An Mac Tíre Bán" <rayh(removespamblocker>@iol.ie>
After 30 years, a man has had his conviction for membership in youth wing of the
IRA overturned... Ah! British Justice.... At this rate, in about 120
thousand years, the Brits will finally admit that Bloody Sunday was a murderous
atrocity and offer an unconditional apology to the victims and their families...
I'm wondering if Mr. Mulholland shouldn't sue the British Government for
compensation based on the fact that he has had to go through life with this
conviction on record and how it might have effected his employment
opportunities... I'm thinking he should go for 100 million Euros...
These kinds of miscarriage of justice cannot and should not go without some sort
of recompense for the victim.
What say you?
BOLLOCKS!!!!

What say you?
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Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
WhiteWolf - "An Mac Tíre Bán" <rayh(removespamblocker>@iol.ie>
2006-09-11 15:02:16 UTC
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Post by Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
Post by WhiteWolf - "An Mac Tíre Bán" <rayh(removespamblocker>@iol.ie>
After 30 years, a man has had his conviction for membership in youth wing of the
IRA overturned... Ah! British Justice.... At this rate, in about 120
thousand years, the Brits will finally admit that Bloody Sunday was a murderous
atrocity and offer an unconditional apology to the victims and their families...
I'm wondering if Mr. Mulholland shouldn't sue the British Government for
compensation based on the fact that he has had to go through life with this
conviction on record and how it might have effected his employment
opportunities... I'm thinking he should go for 100 million Euros...
These kinds of miscarriage of justice cannot and should not go without some sort
of recompense for the victim.
What say you?
BOLLOCKS!!!!
What say you?
Typical Unionist response....

Ray
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max.it
2006-09-08 21:38:15 UTC
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On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 13:58:41 GMT, "WhiteWolf - \"An Mac Tíre Bán\"
<rayh(removespamblocker>@iol.ie>" <***@iol.ie> wrote:

I remember that guy, he was a little older than me but he certainly
was one of "the lads" at the time. This happened to many a Mother's
Son on both sides in the 70's and if he had been playing football with
our crowd he would never have been scooped to begin with.....like so
many others, not savvy enough to keep out of trouble, but too young to
know the difference between the fact and fiction of the good ole'
days.........it could have been me or you.

Example: a crowd of guys get stopped by them police peoples, someone
discards their hash, the policeeeees pick it up,scoop everyone and the
weakest link in the interview room gets charged. Happens all the time.

max.it (the orange cage)
WhiteWolf - "An Mac Tíre Bán" <rayh(removespamblocker>@iol.ie>
2006-09-11 15:02:18 UTC
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Post by max.it
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 13:58:41 GMT, "WhiteWolf - \"An Mac Tíre Bán\"
I remember that guy, he was a little older than me but he certainly
was one of "the lads" at the time.
Careful Max, he just got his conviction overturned, you can't say he was one of
the Lads without proof or you could be on a hook...
Post by max.it
This happened to many a Mother's
Son on both sides in the 70's and if he had been playing football with
our crowd he would never have been scooped to begin with.....like so
many others, not savvy enough to keep out of trouble, but too young to
know the difference between the fact and fiction of the good ole'
days.........it could have been me or you.
How do you know it wasn't! LOL! ;)
Post by max.it
Example: a crowd of guys get stopped by them police peoples, someone
discards their hash, the policeeeees pick it up,scoop everyone and the
weakest link in the interview room gets charged. Happens all the time.
max.it (the orange cage)
Well, I never ran with a crowd that would have had hash to begin with... We
thought we were on the wild side if we snook a cigerette in the cinema!

Ray
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max.it
2006-09-11 16:15:29 UTC
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:02:18 GMT, "WhiteWolf - \"An Mac Tíre Bán\"
Post by WhiteWolf - "An Mac Tíre Bán" <rayh(removespamblocker>@iol.ie>
Post by max.it
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 13:58:41 GMT, "WhiteWolf - \"An Mac Tíre Bán\"
I remember that guy, he was a little older than me but he certainly
was one of "the lads" at the time.
Careful Max, he just got his conviction overturned, you can't say he was one of
the Lads without proof or you could be on a hook...
I think he had a few Brothers or maybe cousins, I knew some of them
too, they came drinking in the same pub as I went to.
Post by WhiteWolf - "An Mac Tíre Bán" <rayh(removespamblocker>@iol.ie>
Post by max.it
This happened to many a Mother's
Son on both sides in the 70's and if he had been playing football with
our crowd he would never have been scooped to begin with.....like so
many others, not savvy enough to keep out of trouble, but too young to
know the difference between the fact and fiction of the good ole'
days.........it could have been me or you.
How do you know it wasn't! LOL! ;)
Post by max.it
Example: a crowd of guys get stopped by them police peoples, someone
discards their hash, the policeeeees pick it up,scoop everyone and the
weakest link in the interview room gets charged. Happens all the time.
max.it (the orange cage)
Well, I never ran with a crowd that would have had hash to begin with... We
thought we were on the wild side if we snook a cigerette in the cinema!
Then the crowd smoking the doobies would have thought you guys were
the lads.

max.it (the orange cage)
Post by WhiteWolf - "An Mac Tíre Bán" <rayh(removespamblocker>@iol.ie>
Ray
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WhiteWolf - "An Mac Tíre Bán" <rayh(removespamblocker>@iol.ie>
2006-09-11 16:24:09 UTC
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Post by max.it
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:02:18 GMT, "WhiteWolf - \"An Mac Tíre Bán\"
Post by WhiteWolf - "An Mac Tíre Bán" <rayh(removespamblocker>@iol.ie>
Post by max.it
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 13:58:41 GMT, "WhiteWolf - \"An Mac Tíre Bán\"
I remember that guy, he was a little older than me but he certainly
was one of "the lads" at the time.
Careful Max, he just got his conviction overturned, you can't say he was one of
the Lads without proof or you could be on a hook...
I think he had a few Brothers or maybe cousins, I knew some of them
too, they came drinking in the same pub as I went to.
I know Max, I'm not trying to be a shite stirrer here... But there are readers
with less regard... you know... and it's them bottom feeding bastards scum I'm
trying to alert you to...
Post by max.it
Post by WhiteWolf - "An Mac Tíre Bán" <rayh(removespamblocker>@iol.ie>
Post by max.it
This happened to many a Mother's
Son on both sides in the 70's and if he had been playing football with
our crowd he would never have been scooped to begin with.....like so
many others, not savvy enough to keep out of trouble, but too young to
know the difference between the fact and fiction of the good ole'
days.........it could have been me or you.
How do you know it wasn't! LOL! ;)
Post by max.it
Example: a crowd of guys get stopped by them police peoples, someone
discards their hash, the policeeeees pick it up,scoop everyone and the
weakest link in the interview room gets charged. Happens all the time.
max.it (the orange cage)
Well, I never ran with a crowd that would have had hash to begin with... We
thought we were on the wild side if we snook a cigerette in the cinema!
Then the crowd smoking the doobies would have thought you guys were
the lads.
max.it (the orange cage)
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!! hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

You can be right wit at times Max! :)

Ray
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Solus
2006-09-11 19:49:41 UTC
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Post by WhiteWolf - "An Mac Tíre Bán" <rayh(removespamblocker>@iol.ie>
Post by max.it
I remember that guy, he was a little older than me but he certainly
was one of "the lads" at the time.
Careful Max, he just got his conviction overturned, you can't say he was one of
the Lads without proof or you could be on a hook...
Unlike anybody who points out you were a provo.
Post by WhiteWolf - "An Mac Tíre Bán" <rayh(removespamblocker>@iol.ie>
Well, I never ran with a crowd that would have had hash to begin with... We
thought we were on the wild side if we snook a cigerette in the cinema!
Thats beyond chuzpah

Solus
WhiteWolf - "An Mac Tíre Bán" <rayh(removespamblocker>@iol.ie>
2006-09-11 20:08:34 UTC
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Post by Solus
Post by WhiteWolf - "An Mac Tíre Bán" <rayh(removespamblocker>@iol.ie>
Post by max.it
I remember that guy, he was a little older than me but he certainly
was one of "the lads" at the time.
Careful Max, he just got his conviction overturned, you can't say he was one of
the Lads without proof or you could be on a hook...
Unlike anybody who points out you were a provo.
And that useless prick would have to provide proof... I know *proof* to you
liberals is a disease... LOL!!
Post by Solus
Post by WhiteWolf - "An Mac Tíre Bán" <rayh(removespamblocker>@iol.ie>
Well, I never ran with a crowd that would have had hash to begin with... We
thought we were on the wild side if we snook a cigerette in the cinema!
Thats beyond chuzpah
Solus
If we knew who you were, you cowardly scum bastard, we'd have "explained" things
to you... But no, your a cowardly scumbag... with all our pity....

Ray
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The Highlander
2006-09-12 01:54:17 UTC
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Post by Solus
Post by WhiteWolf - "An Mac Tíre Bán" <rayh(removespamblocker>@iol.ie>
Post by max.it
I remember that guy, he was a little older than me but he certainly
was one of "the lads" at the time.
Careful Max, he just got his conviction overturned, you can't say he was one of
the Lads without proof or you could be on a hook...
Unlike anybody who points out you were a provo.
Post by WhiteWolf - "An Mac Tíre Bán" <rayh(removespamblocker>@iol.ie>
Well, I never ran with a crowd that would have had hash to begin with... We
thought we were on the wild side if we snook a cigerette in the cinema!
Wow, your Active Service Squad must have been a real hotbed of
daredevils!

Ray: Watch it, Brit squaddie or I'll blow smoke in your eyes!

Squaddie: Oh no, pleeese, not smoke in my eyes... <collapses in
helpless laughter>

Arselicker: That Mr. Cantillon really knows how to terrify Brits!

Ray (proudly): Yup! AND I'm out of nappies* next week when I turn 21!

*for americanos - diapers.
Post by Solus
Thats beyond chuzpah
Solus
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The Highlander
2006-09-12 02:11:34 UTC
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:02:18 GMT, "WhiteWolf - \"An Mac Tíre Bán\"
Post by WhiteWolf - "An Mac Tíre Bán" <rayh(removespamblocker>@iol.ie>
Post by max.it
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 13:58:41 GMT, "WhiteWolf - \"An Mac Tíre Bán\"
I remember that guy, he was a little older than me but he certainly
was one of "the lads" at the time.
Careful Max, he just got his conviction overturned, you can't say he was one of
the Lads without proof or you could be on a hook...
Post by max.it
This happened to many a Mother's
Son on both sides in the 70's and if he had been playing football with
our crowd he would never have been scooped to begin with.....like so
many others, not savvy enough to keep out of trouble, but too young to
know the difference between the fact and fiction of the good ole'
days.........it could have been me or you.
How do you know it wasn't! LOL! ;)
Because:

1. Thirty years ago you were still taking fly puffs at cigarettes in a
cinema in Limerick.

2. You wouldn't go near a hotspot like Portadown if you were paid.

3. How would you get there anyway - on foot?
Post by WhiteWolf - "An Mac Tíre Bán" <rayh(removespamblocker>@iol.ie>
Post by max.it
Example: a crowd of guys get stopped by them police peoples, someone
discards their hash, the policeeeees pick it up,scoop everyone and the
weakest link in the interview room gets charged. Happens all the time.
max.it (the orange cage)
Well, I never ran with a crowd that would have had hash to begin with... We
thought we were on the wild side if we snook a cigerette in the cinema!
Ray
The Highlander

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Neolithic
2008-08-08 06:33:55 UTC
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On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 13:58:41 GMT, "WhiteWolf - \"An Mac Tíre Bán\"
Post by WhiteWolf - "An Mac Tíre Bán" <rayh(removespamblocker>@iol.ie>
After 30 years, a man has had his conviction for membership in youth wing of the
IRA overturned...
<cut>

This post is contradictory in spirit to all of the comments in favour
of the American Republican Party made by the original poster.

Neolithic

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