Discussion:
Roman Catholicism has lost the plot
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Feck all sassanaigh
2008-10-14 23:32:31 UTC
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The imagery of young girls being dressed as white brides in completly
expensive dresses at ludicrous expense to their parents together with
diamond tiaras is puke inducing. Perhaps a case of gobshite mothers
living out little princess fantasies. Only the *ngurlangers support
princess shitology. We now are aware of the "turn ons" that the sick
bastards called RC priests inflicted. Stop RC shite and become
republican protestants with the primary aim of "retiring" the Betty
Windsor Mob...
d***@aol.com
2008-10-14 23:35:21 UTC
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Post by Feck all sassanaigh
The imagery of young girls being dressed as white brides in completly
expensive dresses at ludicrous expense to their parents together with
diamond tiaras is puke inducing.  Perhaps a case of gobshite mothers
living out little princess fantasies.  Only the *ngurlangers support
princess shitology.  We now are aware of the "turn ons" that the sick
bastards called RC priests inflicted.  Stop RC shite and become
republican protestants with the primary aim of "retiring" the Betty
Windsor Mob...
Uh, isn't Betty a Protestant?
Feck all sassanaigh
2008-10-14 23:42:09 UTC
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Post by Feck all sassanaigh
The imagery of young girls being dressed as white brides in completly
expensive dresses at ludicrous expense to their parents together with
diamond tiaras is puke inducing.  Perhaps a case of gobshite mothers
living out little princess fantasies.  Only the *ngurlangers support
princess shitology.  We now are aware of the "turn ons" that the sick
bastards called RC priests inflicted.  Stop RC shite and become
republican protestants with the primary aim of "retiring" the Betty
Windsor Mob...
      Uh, isn't Betty a Protestant?
Ask the f*cking corgis...
d***@aol.com
2008-10-15 00:22:37 UTC
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Post by Feck all sassanaigh
Post by Feck all sassanaigh
The imagery of young girls being dressed as white brides in completly
expensive dresses at ludicrous expense to their parents together with
diamond tiaras is puke inducing.  Perhaps a case of gobshite mothers
living out little princess fantasies.  Only the *ngurlangers support
princess shitology.  We now are aware of the "turn ons" that the sick
bastards called RC priests inflicted.  Stop RC shite and become
republican protestants with the primary aim of "retiring" the Betty
Windsor Mob...
      Uh, isn't Betty a Protestant?
Ask the f*cking corgis...
Sorry, but I don't speak corgi.
Josiah Jenkins
2008-10-15 00:49:35 UTC
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:35:21 -0700 (PDT), "***@aol.com"
<***@aol.com> wrote:

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Post by d***@aol.com
Uh, isn't Betty a Protestant?
Arguable point.

She's the Head of the Church of *ngland which describes itself as
"Catholic but Reformed" (it separated from Church of Rome in
1534 but retained much of the structure and dogma)

My Covenanter ancestors would probably not have seen
much difference between the two.
d***@aol.com
2008-10-15 01:03:02 UTC
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On Oct 14, 8:49 pm, Josiah Jenkins <josiah-
Post by Josiah Jenkins
<snip>
     Uh, isn't Betty a Protestant?
Arguable point.
She's the Head of the Church of *ngland which describes itself as
"Catholic but Reformed" (it separated from Church of Rome in
1534 but retained much of the structure and dogma)
My Covenanter ancestors would probably not have seen
much difference between the two.
We've got Episcopals over here.....often referred to as "Catholic
Light", but everyone considers them Protestant. BTW, are the Nothern
Ireland Protestants Church of England?
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
2008-10-15 08:45:32 UTC
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On Oct 14, 8:49 pm, Josiah Jenkins <josiah-
Post by Josiah Jenkins
<snip>
Post by d***@aol.com
Uh, isn't Betty a Protestant?
Arguable point.
She's the Head of the Church of *ngland which describes itself as
"Catholic but Reformed" (it separated from Church of Rome in
1534 but retained much of the structure and dogma)
The C of E is a "Catholic" church, as is the Church of Rome "Catholic". But
they are not the same thing, of course. The C of E does NOT refer to itself
as "Catholic but Reformed". It is "disestablished", as are all Protestant
churches..
Post by Josiah Jenkins
My Covenanter ancestors would probably not have seen
much difference between the two.
We've got Episcopals over here.....often referred to as "Catholic
Light", but everyone considers them Protestant. BTW, are the Nothern
Ireland Protestants Church of England?
I am astonished at the lack of knowledge here! The Church of Ireland, of
course! DUH!!
--
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

(Glac bóg an saol agus glacfaidh an saol bóg thú).
mothed out
2008-10-15 09:45:15 UTC
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Post by Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
On Oct 14, 8:49 pm, Josiah Jenkins <josiah-
Post by Josiah Jenkins
<snip>
Post by d***@aol.com
Uh, isn't Betty a Protestant?
Arguable point.
She's the Head of the Church of *ngland which describes itself as
"Catholic but Reformed" (it separated from Church of Rome in
1534 but retained much of the structure and dogma)
The C of E is a "Catholic" church, as is the Church of Rome "Catholic". But
they are not the same thing, of course. The C of E does NOT refer to itself
as "Catholic but Reformed". It is "disestablished", as are all Protestant
churches..
Post by Josiah Jenkins
My Covenanter ancestors would probably not have seen
much difference between the two.
     We've got Episcopals over here.....often referred to as "Catholic
Light", but everyone considers them Protestant. BTW, are the Nothern
Ireland Protestants Church of England?
I am astonished at the lack of knowledge here! The Church of Ireland, of
course! DUH!!
...which is based in Dublin and offers services in Irish...but that
might be a bit much to digest in one day for one of our American
cousins : )
conwaycaine
2008-10-15 13:34:21 UTC
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Post by Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
I am astonished at the lack of knowledge here! The Church of Ireland, of
course! DUH!!
...which is based in Dublin and offers services in Irish...but that
might be a bit much to digest in one day for one of our American
cousins : )

**********

Irish the dialect or Gaelic?
Alan Smaill
2008-10-15 14:02:18 UTC
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Post by mothed out
Post by Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
I am astonished at the lack of knowledge here! The Church of Ireland, of
course! DUH!!
...which is based in Dublin and offers services in Irish...but that
might be a bit much to digest in one day for one of our American
cousins : )
**********
Irish the dialect or Gaelic?
what the Irish mean by "Irish", the Celtic language.

The first printed book in Irish is due to the (presbyterian)
Church of Scotland -- but let's not have too many surprises
in one day.
--
Alan Smaill
Féachadóir
2008-10-15 16:32:22 UTC
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Post by Alan Smaill
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Post by Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
I am astonished at the lack of knowledge here! The Church of Ireland,
of course! DUH!!
...which is based in Dublin and offers services in Irish...but that
might be a bit much to digest in one day for one of our American
cousins : )
**********
Irish the dialect or Gaelic?
what the Irish mean by "Irish", the Celtic language.
The first printed book in Irish is due to the (presbyterian) Church of
Scotland -- but let's not have too many surprises in one day.
And not only did the Catholic Church not getting around to printing its
own version of the Bible in Irish until the 1960s, they organised
bookburnings tof the sinful Protestant Irish language.
--
'Donegal: Up Here It's Different'
© Féachadóir
mothed out
2008-10-15 17:00:19 UTC
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Post by Alan Smaill
news:e0c9588b-0b3d-4284-94e0-
Post by Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
I am astonished at the lack of knowledge here! The Church of Ireland,
of course! DUH!!
...which is based in Dublin and offers services in Irish...but that
might be a bit much to digest in one day for one of our American
cousins : )
**********
Irish the dialect or Gaelic?
what the Irish mean by "Irish", the Celtic language.
The first printed book in Irish is due to the (presbyterian) Church of
Scotland -- but let's not have too many surprises in one day.
And not only did the Catholic Church not getting around to printing its
own version of the Bible in Irish until the 1960s, they organised
bookburnings tof the sinful Protestant Irish language.
--
'Donegal:  Up Here It's Different'
© Féachadóir
"Certainly not. I always considered it a very Protestant book" - that
is the answer which a Catholic friend of mine attributes to his mother
when he asked her if she'd ever read the Bible... though I *strongly*
suspect he pinched that from the Dave Allen show (or some similar
source), but found good enough to be placed among his family
recollections.
conwaycaine
2008-10-16 13:49:08 UTC
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Post by Alan Smaill
Post by mothed out
Post by Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
I am astonished at the lack of knowledge here! The Church of Ireland, of
course! DUH!!
...which is based in Dublin and offers services in Irish...but that
might be a bit much to digest in one day for one of our American
cousins : )
**********
Irish the dialect or Gaelic?
what the Irish mean by "Irish", the Celtic language.
The first printed book in Irish is due to the (presbyterian)
Church of Scotland -- but let's not have too many surprises
in one day.
Would that have been the Greater and Lesser Catechisms?

Ah but the Irish were penciling in the Gaelic with their chubby little hands
long before that.
It was predestined to be so.
Think "Book of Kells".
Alan Smaill
2008-10-16 14:53:53 UTC
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Post by conwaycaine
Post by Alan Smaill
Post by mothed out
Post by Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
I am astonished at the lack of knowledge here! The Church of Ireland, of
course! DUH!!
...which is based in Dublin and offers services in Irish...but that
might be a bit much to digest in one day for one of our American
cousins : )
**********
Irish the dialect or Gaelic?
what the Irish mean by "Irish", the Celtic language.
The first printed book in Irish is due to the (presbyterian)
Church of Scotland -- but let's not have too many surprises
in one day.
Would that have been the Greater and Lesser Catechisms?
the prayer book of the Dean of Lismore
Post by conwaycaine
Ah but the Irish were penciling in the Gaelic with their chubby little hands
long before that.
It was predestined to be so.
Think "Book of Kells".
mostly written in Iona, Scotland, I believe ...
(OK this is disputed)
--
Alan Smaill
Alan Smaill
2008-10-16 15:04:43 UTC
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Post by conwaycaine
Post by Alan Smaill
Post by mothed out
Post by Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
I am astonished at the lack of knowledge here! The Church of Ireland, of
course! DUH!!
...which is based in Dublin and offers services in Irish...but that
might be a bit much to digest in one day for one of our American
cousins : )
**********
Irish the dialect or Gaelic?
what the Irish mean by "Irish", the Celtic language.
The first printed book in Irish is due to the (presbyterian)
Church of Scotland -- but let's not have too many surprises
in one day.
Would that have been the Greater and Lesser Catechisms?
the prayer book of the Dean of Lismore
Post by conwaycaine
Ah but the Irish were penciling in the Gaelic with their chubby little hands
long before that.
It was predestined to be so.
Think "Book of Kells".
mostly written in Iona, Scotland, I believe ...
(OK this is disputed)
oh yes, and it's not written in gaelic ...

There are some Gaelic scribbles in the margin of the Book of Deer,
but not AFAIK in the Book of Kells.
Post by Alan Smaill
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Alan Smaill
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Alan Smaill
conwaycaine
2008-10-17 13:29:39 UTC
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Post by Alan Smaill
Post by Alan Smaill
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Post by Alan Smaill
Post by mothed out
Post by Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
I am astonished at the lack of knowledge here! The Church of
Ireland,
of
course! DUH!!
...which is based in Dublin and offers services in Irish...but that
might be a bit much to digest in one day for one of our American
cousins : )
**********
Irish the dialect or Gaelic?
what the Irish mean by "Irish", the Celtic language.
The first printed book in Irish is due to the (presbyterian)
Church of Scotland -- but let's not have too many surprises
in one day.
Would that have been the Greater and Lesser Catechisms?
the prayer book of the Dean of Lismore
Post by conwaycaine
Ah but the Irish were penciling in the Gaelic with their chubby little hands
long before that.
It was predestined to be so.
Think "Book of Kells".
mostly written in Iona, Scotland, I believe ...
(OK this is disputed)
oh yes, and it's not written in gaelic ...
There are some Gaelic scribbles in the margin of the Book of Deer,
but not AFAIK in the Book of Kells.
Yes, I erred.
But do bear in mind that while you Brits were running about, painting
yourselves with woad, the Irish kept the flame of civilization alive in
Europe.
Custos Custodum
2008-10-16 15:24:55 UTC
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Post by conwaycaine
Post by Alan Smaill
om... On 15 Oct, 01:45, "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh."
Post by Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
I am astonished at the lack of knowledge here! The Church of Ireland, of
course! DUH!!
...which is based in Dublin and offers services in Irish...but
that might be a bit much to digest in one day for one of our
American cousins : )
**********
Irish the dialect or Gaelic?
what the Irish mean by "Irish", the Celtic language.
The first printed book in Irish is due to the (presbyterian)
Church of Scotland -- but let's not have too many surprises
in one day.
Would that have been the Greater and Lesser Catechisms?
the prayer book of the Dean of Lismore
Post by conwaycaine
Ah but the Irish were penciling in the Gaelic with their chubby
little hands long before that.
It was predestined to be so.
Think "Book of Kells".
mostly written in Iona, Scotland, I believe ...
(OK this is disputed)
And in Latin (which is indisputable). Well worth seeing if you're ever in
Dublin.
unknown
2008-10-16 17:35:40 UTC
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Post by conwaycaine
Post by Alan Smaill
Post by mothed out
Post by Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
I am astonished at the lack of knowledge here! The Church of Ireland, of
course! DUH!!
...which is based in Dublin and offers services in Irish...but that
might be a bit much to digest in one day for one of our American
cousins : )
**********
Irish the dialect or Gaelic?
what the Irish mean by "Irish", the Celtic language.
The first printed book in Irish is due to the (presbyterian)
Church of Scotland -- but let's not have too many surprises
in one day.
Would that have been the Greater and Lesser Catechisms?
the prayer book of the Dean of Lismore
Post by conwaycaine
Ah but the Irish were penciling in the Gaelic with their chubby little hands
long before that.
It was predestined to be so.
Think "Book of Kells".
mostly written in Iona, Scotland, I believe ...
(OK this is disputed)
Written in Latin, wherever it was created.
--
'Donegal: Up Here It's Different'
© Féachadóir
conwaycaine
2008-10-17 13:28:19 UTC
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Post by Alan Smaill
Post by conwaycaine
Post by Alan Smaill
Post by mothed out
Post by Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
I am astonished at the lack of knowledge here! The Church of
Ireland,
of
course! DUH!!
...which is based in Dublin and offers services in Irish...but that
might be a bit much to digest in one day for one of our American
cousins : )
**********
Irish the dialect or Gaelic?
what the Irish mean by "Irish", the Celtic language.
The first printed book in Irish is due to the (presbyterian)
Church of Scotland -- but let's not have too many surprises
in one day.
Would that have been the Greater and Lesser Catechisms?
the prayer book of the Dean of Lismore
Post by conwaycaine
Ah but the Irish were penciling in the Gaelic with their chubby little hands
long before that.
It was predestined to be so.
Think "Book of Kells".
mostly written in Iona, Scotland, I believe ...
(OK this is disputed)
And, as Sheila pointed out, written in Latin as well.
So many cherished beliefs shattered on the hard rocks of Scottish
realism..........
Einde O'Callaghan
2008-10-15 10:52:15 UTC
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"Hal wrote:
<snip>
Post by Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
The C of E is a "Catholic" church, as is the Church of Rome "Catholic".
But they are not the same thing, of course. The C of E does NOT refer to
itself as "Catholic but Reformed". It is "disestablished", as are all
Protestant churches..
No, it isn't. The C o E is the Established Church in England.

Einde O'Callaghan
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
2008-10-15 14:21:09 UTC
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<snip>
Post by Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
The C of E is a "Catholic" church, as is the Church of Rome
"Catholic". But they are not the same thing, of course. The C of E
does NOT refer to itself as "Catholic but Reformed". It is
"disestablished", as are all Protestant churches..
No, it isn't. The C o E is the Established Church in England.
Correct!! My error! Appologies. The C of I was disestablished from the C of
E in 1871.

http://www.ireland.anglican.org/index.php?do=information&id=5
--
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

(Glac bóg an saol agus glacfaidh an saol bóg thú).
conwaycaine
2008-10-15 13:33:29 UTC
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Post by Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
On Oct 14, 8:49 pm, Josiah Jenkins <josiah-
We've got Episcopals over here.....often referred to as "Catholic
Light", but everyone considers them Protestant. BTW, are the Nothern
Ireland Protestants Church of England?
I am astonished at the lack of knowledge here! The Church of Ireland, of
course! DUH!!
What relationship, if any, does the Church Of Ireland have with the
Archbishop of Canterbury?
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
2008-10-15 14:16:09 UTC
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Post by conwaycaine
Post by Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
On Oct 14, 8:49 pm, Josiah Jenkins <josiah-
We've got Episcopals over here.....often referred to as
"Catholic Light", but everyone considers them Protestant. BTW, are
the Nothern Ireland Protestants Church of England?
I am astonished at the lack of knowledge here! The Church of
Ireland, of course! DUH!!
What relationship, if any, does the Church Of Ireland have with the
Archbishop of Canterbury?
The Church Of Ireland is the DISestablished Anglican Church of Ireland, and
has it's own Boss. Nothing to do with the Church of England per se. The
British, ESTablished Church of England, is also Anglican, but has it's own
Boss as well, who is the Archbishop of Canterbury. Nevertheless, both
Churches are very close to oneanother and cooperate in most areas. The C of
I was disestablished from the C of E... Have a Google!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Ireland
--
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

(Glac bóg an saol agus glacfaidh an saol bóg thú).
conwaycaine
2008-10-16 13:51:25 UTC
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Post by Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
The Church Of Ireland is the DISestablished Anglican Church of Ireland,
and has it's own Boss. Nothing to do with the Church of England per se.
The British, ESTablished Church of England, is also Anglican, but has it's
own Boss as well, who is the Archbishop of Canterbury. Nevertheless, both
Churches are very close to oneanother and cooperate in most areas. The C
of I was disestablished from the C of E... Have a Google!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Ireland
They are thick as thieves, the two groups.
A fish by any other name stinks as strong..................
;=)
mothed out
2008-10-16 10:09:38 UTC
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Post by Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
On Oct 14, 8:49 pm, Josiah Jenkins <josiah-
     We've got Episcopals over here.....often referred to as "Catholic
Light", but everyone considers them Protestant. BTW, are the Nothern
Ireland Protestants Church of England?
I am astonished at the lack of knowledge here! The Church of Ireland, of
course! DUH!!
What relationship, if any, does the Church Of Ireland have with the
Archbishop of Canterbury?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglican
conwaycaine
2008-10-16 13:53:49 UTC
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Post by conwaycaine
Post by Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
On Oct 14, 8:49 pm, Josiah Jenkins <josiah-
We've got Episcopals over here.....often referred to as "Catholic
Light", but everyone considers them Protestant. BTW, are the Nothern
Ireland Protestants Church of England?
I am astonished at the lack of knowledge here! The Church of Ireland, of
course! DUH!!
What relationship, if any, does the Church Of Ireland have with the
Archbishop of Canterbury?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglican

Thanks, moth.
I was thinking of the worldwide Anglican community.
mothed out
2008-10-17 14:28:44 UTC
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Post by conwaycaine
Post by Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
On Oct 14, 8:49 pm, Josiah Jenkins <josiah-
We've got Episcopals over here.....often referred to as "Catholic
Light", but everyone considers them Protestant. BTW, are the Nothern
Ireland Protestants Church of England?
I am astonished at the lack of knowledge here! The Church of Ireland, of
course! DUH!!
What relationship, if any, does the Church Of Ireland have with the
Archbishop of Canterbury?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglican
Thanks, moth.
I was thinking of the worldwide Anglican community.
...assuming such a thing exists any more now that the homophobic
Nigerian Anglican leadership are off on their own trajectory
conwaycaine
2008-10-18 19:10:11 UTC
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Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
2008-10-19 10:56:31 UTC
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Post by conwaycaine
Post by Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
On Oct 14, 8:49 pm, Josiah Jenkins <josiah-
We've got Episcopals over here.....often referred to as "Catholic
Light", but everyone considers them Protestant. BTW, are the
Nothern Ireland Protestants Church of England?
I am astonished at the lack of knowledge here! The Church of Ireland, of
course! DUH!!
What relationship, if any, does the Church Of Ireland have with the
Archbishop of Canterbury?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglican
Thanks, moth.
I was thinking of the worldwide Anglican community.
...assuming such a thing exists any more now that the homophobic
Nigerian Anglican leadership are off on their own trajectory
*********
That ordaining of a American gay Bishop angered more than the
Nigerians. I do believe it has calmed down now.
As it should have! Totally unacceptable attitude, IMO.
--
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.

(Glac bóg an saol agus glacfaidh an saol bóg thú).
mothed out
2008-10-15 09:51:35 UTC
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On 14 Oct, 17:49, Josiah Jenkins <josiah-
Post by Josiah Jenkins
<snip>
     Uh, isn't Betty a Protestant?
Arguable point.
She's the Head of the Church of *ngland which describes itself as
"Catholic but Reformed" (it separated from Church of Rome in
1534 but retained much of the structure and dogma)
My Covenanter ancestors would probably not have seen
much difference between the two.
Though as it happens, she would have to abdicate by law if she
converted to Catholicism (a law your covenanter ancestors would
probably have approved of).
Cormac
2008-10-15 05:58:11 UTC
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      Uh, isn't Betty a Protestant?
Presumably you are refering to Queen Brenda the Second of
England,First of Scotland and not at all of Ireland. The Welsh can
make up their own minds.

Cormac.
Westprog
2008-10-15 13:10:35 UTC
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***@aol.com wrote:
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Post by d***@aol.com
Uh, isn't Betty a Protestant?
He's in favour of /republican/ protestants who will remove the royal family.
Like Oliver Cromwell.
mothed out
2008-10-15 09:40:16 UTC
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Post by Feck all sassanaigh
The imagery of young girls being dressed as white brides in completly
expensive dresses at ludicrous expense to their parents together with
diamond tiaras is puke inducing.  Perhaps a case of gobshite mothers
living out little princess fantasies.  Only the *ngurlangers support
princess shitology.  We now are aware of the "turn ons" that the sick
bastards called RC priests inflicted.  Stop RC shite and become
republican protestants with the primary aim of "retiring" the Betty
Windsor Mob...
They started the plot didn't they? That's why we have fireworks day.
Oh, I forgot, you're not allowed fireworks are you.
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